{"id":16083,"date":"2015-02-24T08:00:49","date_gmt":"2015-02-24T13:00:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Ask-a-Pro\/?p=16083"},"modified":"2015-06-26T09:57:30","modified_gmt":"2015-06-26T13:57:30","slug":"different-levels-of-paint-correction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Ask-a-Pro\/different-levels-of-paint-correction\/","title":{"rendered":"Different Levels of Paint Correction"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We&#8217;re used to seeing a lot of great work shown on the blog with amazing before and after photos, process, etc.\u00a0 All of us professionals, along with many enthusiasts here enjoy bringing a paint that&#8217;s somewhat beat up &#8220;back to life&#8221;.\u00a0 This is done through a polishing process, which can vary greatly from person to person.\u00a0 There are so many different polishers, polishing pads, polishes and techniques that one can probably write a book about all of it.\u00a0 One thing I&#8217;ve noticed that gets discussed quite a bit after someone corrects the paint on a vehicle is the level of correction or perfection achieved, but no one really has a scale in text or images to show exactly what this means.\u00a0 Many times we as professionals will tell clients they can expect &#8220;75% improvement&#8221; or &#8220;95% perfection&#8221; etc. and many enthusiasts will share similar stories online, but again, there&#8217;s no set standard as to what these numbers actually mean.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not here to create a standard nor to explain what the numbers mean because it is a greatly subjective topic and to different people &#8220;90% perfect&#8221; may mean very different things.\u00a0 However, I wanted to share the &#8220;scale&#8221; we use at LUSTR and explain at least a bit what we mean when we give out a percentage of improvement.\u00a0 For this, I couldn&#8217;t have asked for a better car than my friend&#8217;s 2011 Toyota Camry with jet black and fairly beat up paint.<\/p>\n<p>The trunk was the test area and I divided it into 4 sections.\u00a0 Starting from the left, the 1st section received one stage of polishing, 2nd section was not polished and represents the before condition, 3rd section received three stages and 4th section two stages.\u00a0 Stage in this case means that I went over that section with one polishing cycle, with a single pad and polish.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8608\/16158388827_a79f84716d_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (1)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As you can see above, I took the photo after I started to use <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Menzerna-M10\/Fast-Gloss-400-Compound-P688\/16-oz-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">Menzerna FG400<\/a> with a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Lake-Country-M7\/Purple-Foamed-Wool-Pad-P207\/65-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">LC Purple foamed wool pad<\/a> on the section receiving 3 polishing stages. I used various products and polishing steps on each section and to keep it simple, below is a list of each trunk section and the work that was done on each.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>1st Section (1 Stage Polishing Process)<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Menzerna-M10\/PO106FA-Nano-Polish-Super-Finish-P228\/16-oz-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">Menzerna SF 4000<\/a> with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Lake-Country-M7\/White-Polishing-Pad-P57\/65-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">LC White Pad<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong>2nd Section<\/strong>: Nothing\/before condition of paint<\/li>\n<li><strong>3rd Section (Three Stage Polishing Process)<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Menzerna-M10\/Fast-Gloss-400-Compound-P688\/16-oz-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">FG400<\/a> with\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Lake-Country-M7\/Purple-Foamed-Wool-Pad-P207\/65-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">LC Purple foamed wool pad<\/a> as 1st stage,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Meguiars-M43\/Ultra-Cut-Compound-M105-P388\/32-oz-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">M105<\/a> with\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Lake-Country-M7\/Orange-Light-Cutting-Pad-P58\/65-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">Orange LC pad<\/a> as 2nd stage and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Menzerna-M10\/PO106FA-Nano-Polish-Super-Finish-P228\/16-oz-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">SF 4000<\/a> with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Lake-Country-M7\/White-Polishing-Pad-P57\/65-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">LC White Pad<\/a> as 3rd stage<\/li>\n<li><strong>4th Section (Two Stage Polishing Process)<\/strong>:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Meguiars-M43\/Ultra-Cut-Compound-M105-P388\/32-oz-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">M105<\/a> with\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Lake-Country-M7\/Orange-Light-Cutting-Pad-P58\/65-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">Orange LC pad<\/a> as 1st stage and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Menzerna-M10\/PO106FA-Nano-Polish-Super-Finish-P228\/16-oz-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">SF 4000<\/a> with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Lake-Country-M7\/White-Polishing-Pad-P57\/65-S1\/\" target=\"_blank\">LC White Pad<\/a> as 2nd stage<\/li>\n<li>All polishing was done with a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Flex-M26\/XC-3401-VRG-P128\/\" target=\"_blank\">Flex 3401 polisher<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>The Results:<\/h2>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7462\/16158099879_cdb5678ab1_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (2)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The above image shows the before condition.\u00a0 As you can see, it has many swirl marks with some deeper scuffs in the upper left corner of this section.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8662\/15721850394_fdd15a3dc4_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (3)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the improvement we got from the 1-stage polishing.\u00a0 As you can easily tell, there&#8217;s a huge improvement in color and swirl marks, but many deeper marks still remain, as shown in the next couple of photos.\u00a0 I would rate this at 65-70% perfect as most or all of the light swirl marks are gone and the paint has improved from a duller, grayish color to a deep black again, with only deeper marks remaining.\u00a0 For this type of polishing, one should always have a few different pad and polish combinations handy so as to try and get as much correction as possible while still leaving a nice and glossy finish as shown here.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8650\/16158099159_b687025b15_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (4)\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7494\/16156906220_d98ba4f5f2_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (5)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>These would require a much heavier pad\/polish combination to improve, which we&#8217;ll get to below&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8647\/16156682978_450f5dd940_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (6)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>This is the 4th section, which received 2 stages of polishing.\u00a0 It&#8217;s obviously MUCH better than the section with only 1 stage of polishing and it&#8217;s nearly perfect.\u00a0 This is what I would call 90-95%+ perfect and I&#8217;ll explain why below&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8653\/16156682898_05b5594c04_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (7)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Here if you look under and around the &#8220;x&#8221; marks, you will notice some random deeper defects, which could not be removed with the 2-stage polishing.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7528\/16318328656_334ca3a608_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (8)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Above is the same section just at a slightly different angle and position on the panel.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7517\/16318328486_0fa27d0995_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (9)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Here too I marked some deeper swirls with an X.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7522\/16343396062_dae479d66b_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (10)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Here is the 3rd section that received 3 stages of correction.\u00a0 This I would consider 95%+ perfect because I truly believe that unless you&#8217;re dealing with a brand new car with really good paint, there will always be a random deep swirls such as the ones marked with an X above.\u00a0 This means that a car&#8217;s paint will rarely be perfect, but it is not impossible.\u00a0 On a sensitive jet black paint, it may be nearly impossible to make even perfection last more than a wash, as some of us know too well by now!\u00a0\u00a0 Here&#8217;s another photo of the 3rd section&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8634\/16156682558_065aa38ff7_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (11)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>And here&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not calling it perfect&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7515\/16158098309_2423c6d5ea_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (12)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The number 1 above shows a deeper swirl mark in that 3rd section that&#8217;s nearly perfect.\u00a0 The reason this section is &#8220;more perfect&#8221; than that 4th section that received only 2 stages is simply because there will be more of these deeper swirl marks left over after 2 stages of polishing than with 3 stages.\u00a0 In the case of this trunk, I believe there were maybe 5-8 on the 4th\/2-stage section and only 1-3 on the 3rd\/3-stage section.\u00a0 For those wondering, the #2 above shows a tape line between the 3rd and 4th section, so I&#8217;m not going to hold it against either section for that deep mark :).\u00a0 Below is just another shot of that tape line, easily visible from a different angle of the 3rd section, which in this photo looks perfect&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7540\/16344267755_0d84c45581_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (13)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Now a few photos inside the shop&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7541\/16318328026_51aca47770_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (14)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>This is exactly why one should always have a few light sources available when trying to accomplish a high level of paint correction.\u00a0 What looks pretty good outside, in this case looks even worse inside the shop with the indirect lights.\u00a0 The large &#8220;light&#8221; is actually only a skylight at our shop.\u00a0 Above is the before section and below is the line between the before and 1-stage polishing&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7508\/15721848814_0d73b14bd1_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (15)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>You can easily tell how much darker the paint looks and when looking at this car without direct light, the difference in gloss would be much different between the two sections.\u00a0 The before section here actually has a coat of wax over it, so it&#8217;s as good as it can look.\u00a0 You can also easily see all the deeper marks left over after only 1 stage of polishing on the left side above.<\/p>\n<p>Below shows the line between before and 3 stages of polishing.\u00a0 Here you can clearly see no deeper marks and the paint is basically black vs grey.\u00a0 Huge difference and as good of an improvement as we could ever expect.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm9.staticflickr.com\/8621\/16342531291_a2e3c322db_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (16)\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7525\/16318327566_a18f6474a6_b.jpg\" alt=\"LUSTR.Levelsofpaintcorrection (17)\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Well that&#8217;s all I got for today.\u00a0 To summarize, I would rate the before condition as 40-50% perfect.\u00a0 The 1-stage polishing gave me about 70%, 2-stage roughly 90-95% and 3-stage 95%+.\u00a0 One thing to note is that paint sensitivity varies and the amount of correction each stage of polishing can achieve can greatly vary.\u00a0 For example, if the much more resistant paint on a Mercedes looked as our before section here, it may trick you into believing that you can easily correct it to near perfect in just 2 or 3 polishing stages.\u00a0 However, with that type of paint, you may go only from 50-55% with 1-stage and 70-80% with 2 stages.\u00a0 In those cases, we like to tell clients to either do a 2 or 3 stage correction (because 1-stage won&#8217;t make much of a difference) or a simple all-in-one, non-corrective polishing to amp up the gloss a bit.<\/p>\n<p>Hope that helps a bit with understanding the levels of paint correction and I&#8217;ll try to do a follow up article very soon demonstrating how different paint types react to the same polishing process.<\/p>\n<h2>Buy Products From This Article<\/h2>\n<p>Purchase the products used in this article individually <a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Sales\/Different-Levels-of-Paint-Correction-SP259\/\">here<\/a>!<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.detailedimage.com\/Sales\/Different-Levels-of-Paint-Correction-SP259\/\"><\/p>\n<div id=\"view-article-products\">View Products Now <i class=\"icon-chevron-right\"><\/i><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When a detailer says you can expect to receive 90% correction out of a certain polishing step, what does that actually mean? 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