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Projects | BMW M2 | Paint Correction | Gyeon MOHS

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Okay, so I know what you must be thinking, “another new coating? What makes this one different from the laundry list of others out there?”

I stumbled across Gyeon at last years SEMA show and was instantly drawn to their products by the vibrant packaging and the simple, clear system. I chatted with Jeff at Gyeon USA and remember asking him what was going to be the craziest, glossiest coating combination in the Gyeon range. Jeff advised me that 3 coats of Gyeon MOHS ceramic coating topped with Gyeon CanCoat would yield a candy-like gloss that would definitely turn some heads. So, I decided to give it a go. Now we only had to find a suitable test subject. It didn’t take us long, after we got a call from a client looking to take his Long Beach Blue BMW M2 to the next level.

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

First up, the wash process. We gave this blue beauty a 2 bucket wash and chemical decontamination with Gyeon Iron. After a heavy rinse, we gave all the paintwork a thorough clay treatment with a Clay Magic fine grade clay bar.

After the vehicle was dried, we pulled the car up and inspected the finish with our Scangrip Sunmatch Light. We quickly realized a single stage correction was going to be the perfect recipe to revive this paintwork. Sonax Fine Abrasive Paste paired with a Rupes yellow pad on the Griots Garage G21, eliminated the swirls and scratches and produced a finish worthy of this coating test.

We started our coating installation with a Gyeon Prep wipe down, spraying the paintwork liberally and wiping with a microfiber towel. Gyeon Prep is designed to eliminate all polishing oils in order to prepare the paintwork for an optimal bond with the coating. I have to say, Gyeon Prep also smells pretty darn good. We went around the car 3 times with Prep in order to ensure all oils were removed.

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

Once the paint was ready for the coating, it was time for the Gyeon MOHS installation. Below is a little excerpt from the product description for MOHS:

The hardness of average car paint is approximately 3-4H and Mohs will add another layer that is 3-4H! This dramatically improves your vehicle’s ability to resist environmental contamination, swirls, RIDs, etc. Mohs however is not “too hard” and still reacts to the changes in the environment such as temperature and humidity. This allows the coating to be “flexible” in a way, meaning that even though it is hard enough to protect, it is still soft enough to not develop micro-cracks that can hurt looks or longevity. Once cured, Mohs will easily last up to 12 months or 12,500 miles and the hydrophobic qualities will have you standing back to admire the tight uniform water beads.

First, we shook the bottle and applied two thin lines of MOHS onto a Gyeon Microfiber Suede. We then spread the coating using a criss-cross pattern to a panel no larger than half a door.  After about 30 seconds, it was time to remove the remaining residue using the three towel removal system. The first towel wipes off the majority of the coating residue followed by the second and third which ensures no residue is left over.

The first characteristic I noticed about MOHS was how cleanly it wiped off. No pressure was used in removing the residue, only leaving behind crisp, glossy paint. I also took note that exceeding the 30 second wipe off time didn’t have much affect on the residue removal experience. Even at the 60-120 second mark the coating was still wiping off cleanly. Keep in mind it was only about 60 degrees in the shop with no humidity. If it were summer, I would have most likely been sticking to that 30 second wipe off time.

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

After the entire vehicle had been coated with 1 layer of MOHS, we baked each panel with our Infratech short wave IR lamp to increase the overall hardness and gloss of each coating layer. Each panel was baked for 10-12 minutes at about 158 degrees. Once the baking was complete, we applied the second layer, baked again, followed by the third and final coat. Keep in mind, if IR curing isn’t an option for you, wait about 1 hour between layers of MOHS with a maximum of 3 layers possible.

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

We then let the car sit overnight, letting the third layer cure before applying Gyeon CanCoat in the morning. Below is an excerpt from the Gyeon CanCoat product description for a quick overview of the product:

Gyeon CanCoat is essentially a coating in a can, designed to help you save time when protecting your paint! We all love coatings, the glossy look and durable protection they provide, but they can be time consuming to apply. Very simply CanCoat is a coating, packed into an aerosol can. Having the coating in this form, allows you to simply spray it onto the paint, and wipe away with a clean microfiber towel. Application is really that easy and allows you to coat an entire car in around 20 minutes!

Why did we top MOHS with CanCoat? Well, we wanted the paint to be pretty darn shiny!  Following Jeff’s recommendation, we applied two layers of CanCoat (three hours apart) using a DI microfiber applicator and a few general purpose microfiber towels. CanCoat spreads nice and evenly and wipes away cleanly as well. The one draw back is that if the spray top on the bottle isn’t removed and cleaned after each usage, it will become clogged from dried coating.

At first I really disliked this aspect of CanCoat, but then I started to think about it a little more. If a 6-8 month sealant can cure that hard, the durability should live up to the expectations and that’s exactly what happened. 4 months back, we tested CanCoat on a daily driven Mini Cooper S which wasn’t shy around the old automatic car wash, and when it returned, the beading blew away what we had come to expect from a sealant. I was very impressed.

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

We finished it all off with an application of Gyeon Cure on the paint, wheels, engine plastics and door jams. For a quick overview of Gyeon Cure check out the excerpt from the product description below:

Gyeon Cure is a hydrophobic spray on sealant that will help extend the life of your existing coating layer. With just a few sprays per panel, Cure will refresh the coating underneath and add extra gloss, along with extending the durability of the protection layer. This will in turn help keep the surface cleaner for longer and protect against dreaded water spots. The secret is in the SiO2 (i.e silica), which helps add extra hydrophobicity making the surface feel slick combined with fantastic anti-static properties.

I have to say Cure was easy to apply and added slickness to paintwork that had been missing from just the MOHS and CanCoat applications.

 

Exhaust tips received a few coats of MOHS as well.

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

And now, the beauty shots!

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

AutoNuvo: BMW M2 Gyeon MOHS Ultimate Detail

Final Thoughts:

After wrapping this one up, I have to say, I really enjoyed working with the Gyeon products. They are very user-friendly which many detailers and DIYers are going to enjoy. I will have to post an update once we see this vehicle back in the shop so we can review on how the coating is performing. From a looks and installation stand point, Gyeon MOHS works very well, achieving a candy like gloss with little to no installation issues. From a price standpoint MOHS is a real winner. For $119.99 you receive a 50mL bottle capable of coating 3-4 cars, a 100 mL bottle of Cure, facemask, applicators, stickers, and a detailed manual. That is a lot of value for that price point.

I hope you enjoyed reading this one.

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James Melfi
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Holliston, MA
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24 comments on Projects | BMW M2 | Paint Correction | Gyeon MOHS

  1. Bryce says:

    by the beard of Zeus!! – could of coated with Crisco James and I would still be drooling. – BEAST

  2. Mike says:

    Wow incredible gloss with this combination. Great job.

  3. Robert McCarty says:

    Just beautiful work! Gyeon looks like a winner.

  4. Dallen Helmer says:

    How are you getting 3-4 cars out of 50mls? I use gtechniq products and can only get about one use out of 50mls on a van/truck with 2 coats.

  5. James says:

    What would be an expected durability length from the car? Gyeon says it will easily go past 12 months but on a rough estimate how long would it last before it needs to be re-coated? On the assumption that it is properly maintained.

    • James Melfi says:

      I always tell my clients that durability is very much reliant on what you put into it and also on how you drive the car. This coating combination was all about building up layers to intensify gloss on a show car. Overall durability was not a huge factor but I would expect the coating on NE roads to get at least to the 1.5-2 year mark without issue based on how it’s Maintained.

  6. Guy Bottom says:

    Looks like you have a winning combination there. I haven’t tried Gyeon yet but you seem to have no major application issues. Thanks for sharing this.

  7. DJBAILEY says:

    How are you cleaning your Cancoat sprayer? Removing it and pumping some IPA or something through it? And are you storing it with the sprayer or metal cap on the bottle?

    • James Melfi says:

      DJ

      What seems to have worked for me, is to remove the sprayer quickly after use and spray APC inside the sprayer tube for 30 seconds or so while pressed on the spray trigger itself. Seems to remove any coating residue and prolong the life of the sprayer.

  8. Ernest says:

    When can I apply wax to my 2017 Audi A4

  9. HG says:

    I had my car done close to a year back. with Prime and Can Coat…12K miles gone in a flash….yet after a wash the car looks like it was the day i got it back after the Gyeon Treatment. Beads just the same.

  10. Ray Scott says:

    I own a 2016 BMW 228ix M-sport in the same color (Estoril). I am definitely interested in this product. WOW!!!

  11. Joey says:

    For one car and 3 layers of mohs, can I go with the 30mL bottle?

  12. Dallen helmer says:

    Couldn’t you possibly cure the third layer of mohs with the IR lights and go straight to cure. Just seems kind of crazy to have a 12-24 hour wait time before applying cure. Would seem like a burden for a mass production shop or even for someone like me. Trying to do a 2-3 day correction and coating jobs. I’d love to use the product but that wait time kind of kills it for me.

    Also I read in hot and Rainey climates gyeon recommends some kind of layer on top of coating to protect it for the 2-3 week of coating curing still. Would cure be the topper they state some kind of “HD natural wax”.

  13. Gregory Knotts says:

    How long would you wait after the final coat of Mohs to apply Cancoat? I know you said you let it sit overnight, but could you apply it after 1-3 hours? Thanks.

  14. Patrick O'Reilly says:

    Hi Guys

    I had my new car coated with MOHS and skin. I had supplied the coatings and instructed the detailer (If you can call them that) to coat 3 times with MOHS with an hour drying time and once with Skin 4 hours after the final coat of MOHS. I was told at 10 am to come back at 6 pm and the car would be ready. I came back unexpectedly after 2 hours and no one was working on the car. I checked with the detailer and he said it was finished. I said impossible. I looked at the MOHS and skin bottles and enough for one coat of each was used, with no time in between to dry. I checked the car and proper cleaning was not done nor polishing. I believe no polish was applied at all. Needless to say they were aught in the act and I did not pay. However my problem now is I have a single coat of MOHS and a single coat of Skin over a new but still un-polished surface. What should I do? Remove the coating and re-apply. Apply more layers? Leave it and see how long it lasts? Any help appreciated.

    • Jeff McEachran says:

      Hi Patrick. Very sorry to hear about your poor experience with this install. I would take the car to a professional, have them remove what was installed, and service the car correctly. One layer of Mohs and one layer of Skin will not be a problem to remove for someone who knows coatings. It will require a medium level polish using tools, pads, and products the professional detailer will have on hand. The currently applied coating will not be a serious issue, outside of some additional labor for the next detailer. I will also say, that bringing a coating you purchased to a detailer and asking them to install it is not a good idea for either party. If it is not a coating they are stocking and regularly installing, they are going to have zero experience with the product and you will likely be leaving disappointed. And I would also say that a detailer that would agree to apply a coating brought in by a customer that they have no experience with might not be the best choice of service provider. It is very important to do your research and make sure your car is being handled be an experienced professional. Where are you located? I’d be happy to help point you to a professional installer so you can fully enjoy the coating!

      • Patrick says:

         also asked a popular car detailer who runs a sucessful you tube channel what he thought. He replied to leave it for now as it would only last 6-12 months at most and at that time, as you advise to go to a professional detailer.
        Trouble is, I live in Bangkok and ptofessional is not a word that is banded about in any serious way here. A lot of chancers. I went to a so called professional for the application of Gyeon in Bangkok ( this guy imported the product for all of Thailand) he was sitting in his office watching tv and no one else about, no car washing nothing. The guy looked about 25 and said he was in the business for 8 years. I highly doubt that. The place was not clean and did not look properly equipped. No waiting room for customers, very dark and dingy. He quoted me a price of $1000 for supplying and applying the product and $850 with me supplying the product. I thought it best to decline especially considering that staff here in Thailand make no more than $350 a month working 12 hours a day 6 days a week ( that would be the exception normally less than $250)
        In short tjere are few to trust here as you cannot be sure that the product advertised is the product applied or that it is applied correctly.
        It is a far cry from the UK or US and other western countries where you can get good reccomendations and redress if the job goes awry.
        I think I will leave it for now and try a local dealer who on the surface looks professional who may apply my product or his own in 6 or 12 months.

        I really appreciate your advice Jeff and appreciate hour offer to lend a hand. Unfortunately I am a long way away and my country of orign is Ireland but have been a UK resedint most of my life. It’s nice to see such neighbourly advice and help from across the devide. I wish you luck in your endevours and peace in the achievement of them.
        Regards
        Patrick

  15. Patrick says:

    I also asked a popular car detailer who runs a sucessful you tube channel what he thought. He replied to leave it for now as it would only last 6-12 months at most and at that time, as you advise to go to a professional detailer.
    Trouble is, I live in Bangkok and ptofessional is not a word that is banded about in any serious way here. A lot of chancers. I went to a so called professional for the application of Gyeon in Bangkok ( this guy imported the product for all of Thailand) he was sitting in his office watching tv and no one else about, no car washing nothing. The guy looked about 25 and said he was in the business for 8 years. I highly doubt that. The place was not clean and did not look properly equipped. No waiting room for customers, very dark and dingy. He quoted me a price of $1000 for supplying and applying the product and $850 with me supplying the product. I thought it best to decline especially considering that staff here in Thailand make no more than $350 a month working 12 hours a day 6 days a week ( that would be the exception normally less than $250)
    In short tjere are few to trust here as you cannot be sure that the product advertised is the product applied or that it is applied correctly.
    It is a far cry from the UK or US and other western countries where you can get good reccomendations and redress if the job goes awry.
    I think I will leave it for now and try a local dealer who on the surface looks professional who may apply my product or his own in 6 or 12 months.

    I really appreciate your advice Jeff and appreciate hour offer to lend a hand. Unfortunately I am a long way away and my country of orign is Ireland but have been a UK resedint most of my life. It’s nice to see such neighbourly advice and help from across the devide. I wish you luck in your endevours and peace in the achievement of them.
    Regards
    Patrick

  16. David King says:

    Hello,
    Can Gyeon Q2 Mohs or Syncro be safely applied over the clear bra? New car and new bra, i don’t want to damage either.

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